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will the real candidate of the future please stand up. >> good afternoon, as we come on the air this afternoon, they are off and running in the 2016 race and the two newly announced candidates themselves and you have to love reporters on the beat. she's holding a round table with students and teachers at a local iowa community college. moments ago she's going to be the champion of average
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americans. >> i think we all know that americans have come back from some pretty tough economic times. and our economy and our country are much better off because american families have basically done whatever it took to make it work. but i think it's fair to say that as you look across the country, the deck is still stacked in favor of those already at the top. there's something wrong with that. >> and meanwhile, republican senator marco rubio is back in washington today. that's after announcing his candidacy last night in miami. at 43 he's the youngest candidate in the race and for him, it's out with the clintons and in with well him. >> just yesterday a leader from yesterday began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday.
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yesterday is over. before us now is the opportunity to author the greatest chapter yet in the amazing story of america. but we can't do that by going back to the leaders and ideas of the past. we must change the decisions we are making by changing the people making them. >> we of course have got both beats covered for you and we begin with alex seitz-wald. does the excitement on campus match the excitement of journalists covering hillary today? >> the answer to that is pretty clearly no. one of things that struck me today, no big groups of supporters here, no signs or kinds of typical trappings you see with a campaign event. i think that's by design they wanted to make this feel like a casual event. they didn't want all of that. but it really underscored the contrast with all of the reporters and media chasing the
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famous scooby van as it's become known once hillary clinton pulled up and pulled around the corner here and went into the small event. we'll see how this plays. will she look like she's the normal person being chased by the media or this whole thing is staged for kind of a performance for their consumption. >> indeed. thank you so much for that. joining us now is howard fineman and global editorial director -- not running after hillary. >> i spent many years running after hillary. >> you graduated -- >> was alex running after her. >> he didn't mention that. i did think hillary made some news here actually she said that we've got to deal with unaccountable money in politics and even if that means a constitutional amendment. that's pretty serious. >> i agree. a lot of republicans will say let's hear about your unaccountable money. she's talking about raising 2.5
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billion and spending over $2 billion in the campaign. money, money everywhere. i think she's trying to straddle the two main messages of the democratic party. one is the populist message that says that the deck is stacked and big money is in charge. and the other message is let's use government on specific programs to help give the middle class a better chance to compete. the first one is sort of the more of the progressive strain and second one is the one that frankly clintonism if there is such a thing, has been about and to some extent barack obama has been about -- education, equal rights, et cetera. >> we have that sound. let's listen to hillary clinton. >> we need to fix our dysfunctional political system and get unaccountable money out of it once and for all. even if that takes a constitutional amendment. >> not saying necessarily that it does take a constitutional amendment but open to that
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possibility. >> i think that's smart. i think she should take it head on because the republicans are going to run against her in this fashion. whatever democratic challengers will do the same and a lot of media criticism will do the same. saying that the clinton machine is just so big that it's too much a part of the establishment itself. because of all of the donations and spending and so on over the years. i think she's smart and right to go after it. and having opened this conversation, she's going to have to get serious about it and i think it's very interesting that she's starting in this place. i think it's sort of a counterpoint to her being the girl from the ap class going down to metal shop here what she was doing with this drop by with the -- with the engine -- the machines in the background. >> i love when that happens. >> you know democrats fall in love republicans fall in line. that's what we say about presidential politics because when democrats have a wide open
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race which we are supposed to have now, there's no official incumbent. we searched for someone to make the heart flutter. that's what democrats seem to want in these situations it seems it's a shock to the collective democratic system the democrats are finding themselves coalescing around someone who does not make their hearts flutter and wants to make the hearts flutter but doesn't have a chance of making their hearts flutter. and that may not be the worst thing in the world. >> well we're always correcting for the last mistake. barack obama was elected in part because he was clearly a brilliant guy, clearly read the book instead of just the cover. and so he was making up for what the nation saw as the deficiencies of george w. who hated complexity and retreated into simple answers. i think if there's a short coming in the obama years, maybe it's heart flattered too much at the beginning. and expectations were raised too
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high. so if that kind of nature of american politics holds true then that's good for hillary. the problem she's got i think is that while democrats are not behaving like republicans, a year an awfully long -- between now and the time she would wrap up the nomination is a year and take it from me a lifetime in politics. she can't keep going to metal shop for the year. she's got to do other things. i'm assuming that's the biggest challenge for her campaign is how she creates the conversation and the energy without their being a serious challenge to her. i think in the end there will be. i think there's got to be some kind of challenge. >> you can't go for a whole year like this you can't. >> metal shop clearly made an impact on you. >> it did. i attended metal shop back in pittsburgh. >> this is the democratic side.
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we'll turn to marco rubio on the republican side. he did not go on a road trip afterwards and headed back to washington because he had to govern attending a crucial foreign relations committee meeting about the nuclear framework deal with iran. we have more on that coming up but for more on rubio's campaign itself and new launch last night, ben ji what can you tell us? >> it was a pretty smooth speech. doesn't get to sell himself with a tour like hillary is doing. he has work to do. the speech itself went off pretty well. it was as notable for someone who was not there and not mentioned as it was for rubio himself. that is jeb bush truly the elephant in the room in this case. now, every republican presidential hopeful has to deal with jeb. he's the establishment front-runner but in rubio's case, it's truly pronounced. he's -- jeb was a one time political mentor of rubio and share the same supporters and likely many of jeb's donors would be looking at rubio if jeb
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weren't in the race. this would be an issue distinguishing himself. kasie hunt asked him directly how he pairs compares to jeb bush early this morning. >> why would you be a better president than jeb bush? >> first of all there's other candidates in this case and i'll tell people what i'm for and want to do. i hon echtly believe the country is at a generational moment. >> do you think jeb bush also recommendation the older generation you reference in your speech yesterday? >> i think candidates are judged on ideas, not biological age. >> you hear rubio say nothing but nice things about jeb bush but there's a subtext, his entire speech was about a new generation, about distinguishing himself from the leaders of yesterday. yes, this applies to hillary clinton but you can also apply it to jeb bush. a lot of supporters do get the
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connection. several people i talked to at his rally told me they were supporting rubio in part because even if they liked jeb bush they were uncomfortable with the idea of another bush in the white house, going back to the same political families. i heard people liken him to clinton at least in terms of that politics even if not on the substance. this is going to be one of those hurdles that rubio has to overcome. >> thank you for your reporting. we go right back to howard fineman. i want to play more from the interview and interesting exchange on marriage equality. take a listen. >> if in fact as polls indicate a growing number of americans believe that sex -- marriage between two individuals of the same sex should be legal, then they can petition their state legislators and change state laws. it's already begun to happen. at the end of the day, i've always believed marriage is regulated by states. never supported federal constitutional amendment on a marriage.
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but so that's why we live in a republic. >> you hear him saying he never supported the federal constitutional amendment, that is something the last republican president george w. bush did run on. that is movement even though he's still saying he's specially against marriage equality. i wonder what your view is as an opening argument from a republican, it is the type of federalism, perhaps politically expedient but seems to be a noticeable softening? >> it is a notable softening and the republican party is moving as fast as it can away from the hard line position that george w. bush as you rightly point out exploited in 2004 to help win that election. they had anti-gay marriage refer dumb on ballots in key states. part of karl rove's strategy we're ee ones away from that. rubio and virtually every other candidate, not the hard core evangelical only types but
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everybody else will move rapidly away from any dogmatic position on it and it's convenient for republicans to hide behind federalism in this case. >> it's been interesting to watch hillary's announcement and marco rubio, you try to picture them going up against each other. in my opinion marco rubio could be one of the most interesting to run against hillary clinton because he is so refreshingly young. he has an interesting family story to tell. as ari reminds me in politics things can change quickly and rubio was the guy that everyone talked about a few years ago, as you know. he seems to be everyone's favorite second. if you look at polling, nbc wall street journal poll 56% of republicans say they could vote for him but according to huff post pollster, only 5.4% say he's their top choice for the nomination. it reminds me of tim pawlenty last go around everybody likes and young and got a great story to tell but never could ignite
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that flame. how does rubio handle this one differently? >> that was one of the gentlist sounding but toughest putdowns i've heard in a long time. >> i'll take that as a compliment. >> you're so graceful about it. marco rubio is the kind of guy you feed it into a computer and sort of come out with marco rubio. hispanic, young, florida, great immigration story. young senator, you know sort of a tie row and the problem is it's all fed through a computer. unlike a governor a governor has to portray himself politically every day making decisions as chief executive. senators can move around the edges without saying very much. so he's great potential. if he and jeb were not from the same state, they would be automatically considered a ticket under the constitution you can't have two candidates from the same state. that's what makes this race so
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interesting down there. >> can he realize his upside potential. thank you so much. >> as you just heard senator rubio is back in d.c. for talks about that nuclear deal with iran. the president meets across town with iraq's prime minister. we'll get you caught up on those important developments out of washington. and later, just weeks after angelina joe lee's powerful op-ed, another star reveals she had breast cancer and had a double mastectomy. >> plus a film sure to warm your heart, the legendary jane goodall will be right here with a scene at "monkey kingdom" yes, i am freaking out a little bit. we'll have all of the news and a little monkeying around. >> that was funny. excellent looking below the surface, researching a hunch...
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breaking news just in from white house, the president wants to officially remove cuba from the list of state sponsors of terrorism. let's go right to nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing. what can you tell us? >> reporter: this had been expected but doesn't make it any less significant. as you know, the president had a long meeting with raul castro when he was in panama over the weekend. longer than expected. there are a lot of people who had suggested that maybe it would happen then. but the president said at that time that he needed more time to review this recommendation. let's sort of go over how we got to this point. the state department had been doing a review of whether or not indeed they should be removed from this list.
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there are only three other countries on it. once that recommendation was made, it moved over to the white house. then a team gave their recommendations to the president. he simply said over the weekend he hadn't had time to give it the proper consideration. here's the impact it has for cuba and frankly for this normalization of relations. it really is a step towards opening those embassies. a lot of this process as the president first announced has gone slowly than they might have expected but there's a process in place to open up embassies and this kind of clears the way for that. there's also a number of other issues that are on the table that will continue to be part of this negotiation, some that cuba won't get for example, they want immediately for control of guantanamo bay to be turned over to them. but there is a process that will open up a lot of financial opportunities for them. this one in particular because
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there were countries and businesses that didn't want to deal with a country on the list of the state sponsors of terror. this is although expected very significant. >> chris jansing, thanks as always. for more on all of this we have former army intelligence officer lieutenant colonel andy shaffer. good day to you. >> good day, thanks for having me on. >> let's start with the breaking news on cuba. when you talk to people at the state department they say this is a substantive factual determination they make. when you talk to a lot of other people in washington and beyond they say there's a lot of politics that goes into who actually is on this list. will you unpack for us the context of that and what this means? >> well not only politics a lot of emotion, you've got to actually understand the history of why we got to where we're at. that is the key here. you have to unpack it from the perspective of what's in it for us and how do we go about making
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sure that things like terror and things like undermining our national security policy doesn't happen again. the good news here if any is that really -- i'm a big fan of cuban cigars the economic thing kicks off. but more importantly looking at global politics and chess game we would much rather have the cubans in our -- remember russia was clearly helping cuba for a lot of years. that no longer is the case. i think this is an opportunity if it's played correctly but the politics behind the scenes will be the thing that drive the train from here on. >> also big in the news is our relationship with iraq and the pentagon is reporting that isis is losing ground there. they lost about 25% of their territory but that has been offset by gains made in syria. help us understand. syria is a bit complicated. we have zero u.s. troops in syria but relying on training more moderate syrians seeking them out and helping them fight but at the same time there's a
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concern they could turn back to us. what is the better option here? >> in afghanistan we helped train the haqani network. we're better off helping train the yazidi christians and our allies, the kurds, we've got to get on top of that. we've been able to make some gains in iraq itself but every other time we do a gain it's like pushing something in a balloon. it goes somewhere else. we've got to get all of this going at the same time. what's critical here is during the current discussions with the iraqi prime minister it will solidify a game plan strategic game plan to work more closely with iraq. the problem is this we still have a very much pro iran pro shia government in the form of the body government. the danger is if that becomes
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overwhelming, you continue to alienate the other group, the sunni regarding everything that they've been doing. i have a friend of mine one of the trainers on the ground in iraq and tells me that the sunni elements of the iraq army are watching carefully and still betting on isis winning over the central government winning. it's a very dicey situation. >> the senate is moving quickly towards an agreement giving them the right to vote on our iran framework deal and they are not the only ones who want to have a vote on this thing. russia has lifted a self-imposed ban on sending surface to air missile systems to iran. that could potentially make that nation much harder to attack. what's going on here and does this -- is this at all change what we're doing with our framework? >> well the president just -- the new york times announced the president is willing to sign a bipartisan bill regarding the overall iran agreement which is good news. that means everybody is talking.
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what you said is correct, the russians have picked a side not our side. them giving this air defense system, state of the art, makes things much more difficult for anybody who wants to take military action. this breaks the sanction. one of the things russians agreed to not give them. this deal was cut almost six or seven years ago and now finally coming to fruition. this furtheren dangers the overall deal. this pressure from russians was keep to keeping the framework going forward. i'm not sure what's going to happen over the next two months as we get towards the end of june this is not going to help us at all. >> that's really interesting and tony, we want to turn to nigeria, the one year anniversary of the kidnapping of the school girls, that's one of 38 kidnappers. 2,000 girls and women in nigeria over the past year. you know from a humanitarian
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perspective, there's a clear reason why to get involved of the but is it in our national security interest? >> it is now. within last few weeks, about a month ago, boek co-har ram swore allegiance to isis. really opposed any international effort to help him. frankly according to the sources i have some of his own cabinet may have been in ka hoots with boko haram. i think with the president coming in although he is somewhat pro sharia law, he may be better at organizing and executing effective missions to get these folks back. it's far too long. it's time the night yearerians accept help. they are a plague on that whole country. i would like to believe with the president coming in we'll see
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welcome back rita wilson became the latest celebrity to reveal she is battling breast cancer. in an exclusive statement to "people," she shares she underwent a double mast effectmy and taking a leave of absence from fish in the dark. she expects to make a full recovery saying why? because i caught this early. have xlebt doctors and got a second opinion. just last week taylor swift also went public about her mother's cancer diagnosis, to encourage others to get tested early. this comes after angelina jolie
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opened up about her family history of cancer and she had a double mast effectmy last year and in march had her ovaries and tubes removed. zoe featured director for "people" joins us now. as we were saying yet another celebrity comes out to talk about their cancer. i want to get to the impact it's having. what do we know about rita wilson. >> she as an underlying condition and she's been monitoring her breast health for years now. she has regular mammograms and breast mris and recently found something that was irregular. she had a biopsy and the pathology was done and came back negative. something inside her like a gut instinct told her to get a second opinion and actually a friend who had breast cancer encouraged her to do the same. >> hear that a lot. a feeling inside that isn't right. >> she said she listened to her gust and went to a second pathologist who found she did have cancer and confirmed with a third. the reason she wanted to come
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out was to empower women to get a second opinion. it's sort of a scary thing to stand up to a doctor and say you might be wrong. she wants them to feel comfortable doing that. >> what a powerful story. all of these famous women coming out being public about their situation, is that having an impact on nonfamous women wanting to go to doctors and get second opinions? >> i think any time a celebrity speaks out about something they have a platform that others don't have. taylor swift revealed her mom is battling cancer and said actually that she for christmas asked her mother to go get tested and her mother had something. her message to her fans to everyone was encourage your parents to get tested. it's interesting they are all coming forward, not just to share their personal story but do good and empower women and encourage them to do the same. >> doctors talk about angelina effect talking about her double mast mastectomy. >> there's something about beautiful powerful women having
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a mastectomy. >> angelina said i still feel feminine. i don't want women to feel that way just because they have a mastectomy -- >> going through menopause at 39. >> it's a scary thing. >> when we look at all of these stars who have so much of their lives taken from them and hear those complaints particularly on the internet where it's open season, and we know even as a private citizen, health care is one of the more private personal things. >> sure. >> how does this work for them when they are feeling beleaguered every other moment tmz and they have to share something like this to helping people see if they are willing to share in this way, something that's difficult and uncertain, it's all the more important that everyone else go and if you have health care try to make sure you're keeping up. >> i thenk they view it as they
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want to control the story and have control over what is being said. >> you don't think it's necessarily al truistic. >> i think that's part of what inspires them to do it but they know in the past they might have been able to go away for months and nobody would ask questions. social media makes that sort of impossible for a lot of stars. someone like taylor swift, if she disappeared for a year, people would ask questions. >> but also feeling you're helping someone else at the same time. >> thank you. >> today marks 150 years since a pivotal moment in our nas's history. do you know what it is? if not, you'll learn all about it next.
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booth yelled out something in latin about tyrants and ran off escaping into the night. booth was chased and caught as a nation mourned. what did the people of that era think of living through that extraordinary moment in history? that is the focus of an engrossing new book called president lincoln assassinated the firsthand story of the murder manhunt trial and mourning. it's a compilation of documents brougt together about howard holzer. welcome sir. >> good to be here. >> why did john wilks booth want to kill the president and how could he have possibly gotten so close to the president that night? >> the motive i think was two fold. first of all, he was deeply racist, pro-confederate and heard lincoln speaking from the white house three days before the murder and in that speech lincoln called for black voting rights for the first time and booth turned too a friend and said that's the last speech
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he'll ever make. >> wow. >> the second reason is he sort of conflated his acting roles in real life. he played in julius ceasar so many times wanted to do the murder and funeral in real life. i think there was a serious mental disturbance as well. he got close because he was a famous actor. he gave his card at the door to the president's box and the person who was sitting at the door said wow, go in your john wilkes booth and he did. >> how did white southerners respond to the news of lincoln's death? >> well we have more information than we used to thanks to new studies and clearly there are a lot of unreconstructible white southerners who celebrated because they hated lincoln and thought he was the tyrant who caused their ruin and taken away their so-called human property. they didn't see any of the humanity in their own slaves and they never would. there were others who were
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afraid of what would come next. they were afraid that the north would be furious at the loss of lincoln and would strike even harder against the vangished southerners by some accounts they did for a while. >> what was lincoln's funeral like and train processional and how many americans saw it? >> the funeral was unlike anything that happened in washington where i'm sitting and certainly baltimore, philadelphia, new york albany buffalo and cleveland, chicago, indianapolis, springfield all had record crowds. millions of people timed by to look at his sadly deteriorating face, his remains were embalmed so many times and people did get to look at his face. it was an important connection that they felt they had to make. nothing like this had ever been seen, not washington's funeral, nothing. and it was really -- and it was a reverse of lincoln's sort of controversial inaugural journey, almost the same path in which he
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had been greeted not always deliriously by democrats along the way. >> not every president has a lasting legacy but with lincoln, he very much has had a legacy that lasted and something we still talk about so much today and one of our awesome producers wrote a piece about this on our website. you can find it there now. it's a great piece and he quoted you, lincoln's story is still the great american story. it's still possible to be born in on security and rise to the top based on your talents alone. and harold we still see this as candidates are announcing they are running for president. they want to tell this great american story. even marco rubio has an open-ed about the revived one country, one destiny. speak to that. >> it was what was embroidered into the lining of abraham lincoln's coat the coat he wore to ford's theater. everyone wants to touch that coat symbolically.
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everyone wants to think that he or she is the heir or heiress to the lincoln legacy. and yes it's the fact that lincoln was able to rise from ob security and middle of nowhere to become president. it's also clearly the accomplishments. he saved the union. the dome i'm sitting in front of was given the green light by lincoln even though there was a metal shortage for bullets and cannone because he said it's a sign the union itself is going to survive. that's what he did for us. he rid us of our original sin of slavery and slaved american democracy and he symbolized it and wrote about it better than anybody else as well. that's number four. >> harold holzer fascinating book. best of luck with it. >> thanks for having me. >> up next, famed prime atologist jane goodall talks about the disney film "monkey
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unconditional love. ♪ she is lost in her infant. >> i feel like that with my baby. that is mom maya and baby kip. in their egtth real life adventure they follow the group of monkeys. there's love and war dictated by the law of jungle. "monkey kingdom" opens everywhere this friday and we're so honored to welcome, dr. jane goodall and a senior scientist at conservation international who grew up in sri lanka, ari wanted to be here and he lost.
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you get the seat sir, dr. goodall, you started your work on chimpanzee behavior 55 years ago. do you think we're better or worse stew ards of nature today than when you started? >> when i started there wasn't any need for all of this conservation because quite honestly there was so much habitat left. and we weren't even thinking in terms of protecting the chimpanzees they were all across africa somewhere over a million, closer to 2 million and down to 300,000 or so. that stretched over 21 nations so there's not a small isolated pockets and if we don't work really hard they could become instinct in many places. >> dr. sanjay the film goes through this monkey troop and we learn the different people and different monkeys in the troop. they feel like people. you talk about raja the alpha
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monkey how does he become the alpha and how does he stay the alpha? those are two different jobs. >> politics and power. game of thrones downtown abbey set in jungle kingdom. what is amazing about this film you see that happen. it doesn't take a lot to translate it to what happens with human society. in this case maya a low ranking monkey and her son kip, she fights for her kid and to elevate her status with the help of this new male kumar, who comes into the picture and i don't want to give it away but it's got a good ending. >> it's dramatic. >> so similar to humans it's unbelievable. >> that's what jane's work really demonstrates that it's maybe even the other way around we're so similar to animals. >> that's a better way to say it. dr. goodall, we were talking
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about about just what an inspiration you are to so many people but in particular kids. you're not going to remember this but you came out to utah in 2008 and you gave my little sister gracie a stuffed animal monkey named george. and she has slept -- there's george. you can see. she slept with george every single night since then and there's gracie holding george. she loves animals and wants to be a vet. she wants to be you one day. how important is it for young kids to bond with animals at a young age? because they connect with them in a way they want to protect and save them. >> i think it's really really important. we see it again and again. you also find that mass murderers and people they often have a history of cruelty to animals as children. and animals help children in many ways autistic children children learn to read better. there's something between the human/animal bond and it's really good for the psychological development of the
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child. >> ella would say the same. >> my daughter is obsessed with your work and obsessed with animals. she wants to be when she grows up as can feel good about watching this film, too, because a portion of the proceeds are going to conservation work. talk to us about that. >> everyone at disney nature films has this giveback program. in this case when you see opening week you really have a great time. but you'll help these primates, and 30 million people depend on that forest for water. >> part of what everyone loves and reveres and talks about you is your relationship with the apes back in africa in the '60s. how did you insinuate yourself into that group and get them to trust you and become one of them? >> patience. to be in the same place every day. wearing the same colored clothes. not trying to get too close too
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quickly. one of them lost his fear before the others. so when i would approach a group ready to run, and david was there, they would kind of look from me to him. and i suppose they thought well she's not so dangerous after all. >> wow. >> and the film makers do the same thing. these guys spent about three years filming this. a thousand days getting close to this troupe. >> so to that point, they filmed hours and hours and hours of footage of these monkeys. did they sort of impose a story on what they saw -- >> no. >> we both traveled to sri lanka to see this firsthand. they have this great body of work there. the film makers spent three years almost filming them. and the story really came about -- i know you love to say that it's empathy as well that allowed you to see what you see on screen. but there is real drama that happens in the animal kingdom.
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>> like a soap opera. >> it's better than that. it really is better than that. so the story wrote itself. >> what can you learn from these animals? what could they teach us? >> they teach us a little humility that we're not as different from the other animals as we used to think. and when you watch this film or when you're with the animals, you realize that they really do have very different personalities. they have minds capable of thinking and solving problems. and they certainly have emotions. and so when people say oh disney humanizes them. disney is showing people what is actually there. and when you get this empathy with the different monkeys and get to know them you know what to show in the film to show the character that is there. i've been accused of i love the way you give chimpanzees personalities. i don't give them a personality. i try to explain it. >> what was it like for you when you first started, being a
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woman, this must have been very ground breaking the work that you were doing. >> well i never thought about it. i had a mother that never for one second indicated that i was a girl that couldn't follow my dreams and go to africa. i was really lucky to be able to be the first person to go in and live with the chimpanzees. everything i saw was new and exciting. >> i'm so excited to see this film thank you both for being here. we really appreciate it. thank you so much. next five questions for hillary clinton that actually matter. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. learn more about the role damaging inflammation may be playing in your symptoms with the expert advice tool at crohnsandcolitis.com. and then speak with your gastroenterologist.
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way back from tough economic times, but the deck is still stacked in favor of those at the top. everyday americans need a champion. and i want to be that champion. >> former secretary of state hillary clinton just wrapped up her very first 2016 presidential campaign event, and already much of the media coverage has focused on presidential campaigning as soap opera. is she relatable? can we talk about that logo? did marco rubio just call her old? don't be distracted by these shiny things. they don't matter. what matters is hillary's plan for the country. now, everyone claims to be a middle class champion but very few back it up. here are five central economic questions for secretary clinton that actually matter. first, how much will hillary raise warren buffett's taxes? warren buffett famously pays a much lower tax rate than his secretary. this is mostly because money earned working is taxed as a higher rate than money earned from investments that warren buffett and mitt romney make. will she end this treatment that favors the rich over the middle
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class? will hillary expand her husband's harmful legacy on trade? now, here are the numbers with a nod to ross perot. palestinian's nafta has been a bonanza for corporations and a disaster for workers. it's depressed wages and destroyed 700,000 american jobs. another even larger trade deal is currently being negotiated that would make things worse. mrs. clinton so far has been silent on this trade deal. where does she stand? will hillary fight for workers to have more power? as unions have declined so have middle class incomes, by republican union busting, that's made it virtually impossible for workers to organize. will she fight for national legislation like the employee free choice act that will give employees a voice in their workplace. will hillary guarantee universal early childhood care? too many women who want to work are shut out of the workplace because they can't afford childcare. and too many children are left behind before they even get to kindergarten. there's no better way to spend
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money than on the very first years of a child's life. it's our national responsibility, and our best interest. after all, someone told me a while back that it takes a village. will hillary fight for $15? tomorrow in the largest wave of protests yet, fast-food and other low wage workers across the nation will take to the streets and they will demand an increase in the national minimum wage to $15 an hour. will hillary back them and back the principle that no one should have to work two jobs to get above the poverty line? a candidate willing to fight for these policies will be a true middle class champion. demand answers. focus on what matters. just because hillary so far doesn't have a strong primary challenger doesn't mean she shouldn't be challenged. all right, that does it for "the cycle." "now with alex wagner" starts right now. a key senate vote is expected any minute on an iran bill, and president obama now
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